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    Dear,

    I opened new thread about dragonpips EA but looks like deleted, i break the rule?

    14) It is not allowed to promote websites which do not contain FXOpen banners nor is it permitted to promote illegal activities (HYIPs, EA cracks, decompiling etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonpips View Post
    Dear,

    I opened new thread about dragonpips EA but looks like deleted, i break the rule?

    14) It is not allowed to promote websites which do not contain FXOpen banners nor is it permitted to promote illegal activities (HYIPs, EA cracks, decompiling etc)
    Hi

    Your site now has an fxopen banner thank you. Your thread was deleted before because forum rules were broken.
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    i put fxopen banner before i posting here

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    dear,

    We saw someone post dragonpips.com is scam to another forum. Please see our discussion below

    I am not going to risk live money with something that proves unprofitable in a backtest a live demo is just as good as a live account with real money. If you are not prepared to accept a live demo forward test it proves this is a scam.

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    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:55:21 -0400
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: Payment for DragonPips EA made

    Dear,

    We still give you chance to prove it not a demo but live
    Regards,
    Support


    Quoting Lee Bryant <[email protected]>:

    No I promise I did not edit the statement, I wouldn't even know how to do so. I just ran the EA and saved the report !
    I will keep this private for the moment, but please after seeing my demo account is unprofitable be honest and keep your promise of a refund.
    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:49:35 -0400
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: Payment for DragonPips EA made

    Dear,

    We keep promise for it, you have 90 days to run dragonpips EA and shown us the account. If you not satisfield you can claim it and we will refund it.

    last qustion for you sir, did you edit the statement? little lie is bigger sin
    Regards,


    Support

    Quoting Lee Bryant <[email protected]>:

    I have been honest thorughout. I will not discuss this with anyone else yet or make it public, instead I will do a live forward test which cannot be edited with notepad and will show I am honest. As I just sent an email to you what I will do is run it on a live demo account for a while then give you the login to this account you will then see for yourself it is not profitable and I could not edit a live login with notepad. Then you must fulfil your promise for a refund if you are honest.
    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:32:54 -0400
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: Payment for DragonPips EA made

    Dear,

    We will refund it if you do with honest way sir, your detail statement is fake, we have intelligent agent shown your bactesting is edited by
    notepad. We apologize about this, We promise refund if you really make backtest for it.

    See our mail before, even 10 years boy know that is false statement. We saved all our discussion and your detail statement as a proof for
    international law if it's necessarry.

    Regards,

    Support


    Quoting Lee Bryant <[email protected]>:

    Hi,

    On your website you promise you will give an immediate refund if similar results are not obtained. You can see I have put a great deal of effort into backtesting on two brokers and I do not get the same results. Please keep your promise and refund my PayPal payment, this will prove you are honest and I will keep my backtests to myself.

    Regards
    Lee
    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:24:54 -0400
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: Payment for DragonPips EA made

    Dear,

    We've checked our mail attch and we sent the right EA for you. We save all your information include your bactesting to us as a proof for international law if necessary.

    Please see again your ****** statement

    Total trades 259 Short positions (won %) 114 (83.33%) Long positions
    (won %) 145 (83.45%)
    Profit trades (% of total) 216 (83.40%) Loss trades (% of
    total) 43 (16.60%)

    Win+lose=total trades
    114+145+43=259? right?

    If you not satisfield with Dragonpips please do with the right way, we give guarantee 90 days for it.

    Regards,


    Support
    Quoting Lee Bryant <[email protected]>:

    Hi,

    I can promise you it is the exact EA you sent me You can see from the parameters at the top of the backtest it is your EA.
    I am quite shocked you would accuse me of lying about such a thing. I used the exact version you send so if there is no TP I don't know
    why it would be doing that - can you resend the EA and make sure you send the right one, maybe you sent me a wrong version last time. I
    will then backtest again. I would never request a refund if your EA performed as advertised but as you can see from my backtest it didn't.
    I am an honest person and would never lie about such a matter.

    Regards
    Lee
    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:07:43 -0400
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: Payment for DragonPips EA made

    Dear,

    One question sir, do you honest? I saw your detail statement is very different with us, i don't see TP on your statement that's means it's
    not our Dragonpips EA (See your TP is blank)

    See your total trade is just 302 trades, it's very impossible for 10 years bactesting.

    Please be honest to test it sir, we very appreciate for your honestly
    and will refund your fund back if your test is using dragonpips EA.

    Regards,
    Support




    Quoting Lee Bryant <[email protected]>:

    Hi,

    I have attached 10 years backtest for **** and ****** as
    you can see none are profitable as advertised on your website. I used 90% modelling quality and am very familar with Metatrader.
    Maybe you used ****** databank imports for your backtest which is not reliable, history bank should be used. Please refund my money and I will not disclose my backtests to anyone else. I am dissapointed to have put so much time in and for the EA not to work as advertised, so as promised by your website please make a quick refund.

    Thanks
    Lee
    Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:52:29 -0400
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: Payment for DragonPips EA made

    Dear,

    Could you please send us your backtesting result for 10 years?

    Regards,


    Support

    Quoting Lee Bryant <[email protected]>:

    I have just backtested with ****** and that did not provide results anywhere near as good as shown on your website either. As promised on your website please refund my purchase as I did not get the same results.

    Thanks
    Lee
    Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:16:50 -0400
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: RE: Payment for DragonPips EA made

    Dear,

    You can run this EA with your name at all broker, If it can't maybe your name on broker is not sama as "Lee Bryant" Please check it again
    and confirm it too us.

    For another broker just need set trading hours because the time is not same for each broker.

    If you have question, don't hasitate to contact us.

    Thank You


    Regards,


    Support



    Quoting Lee Bryant <[email protected]>:

    Hi,

    Thanks, am just backtesting it now.
    Could you please send me a version which runs with any
    broker as I
    have an account with Tadawulfx too and this EA doesn't work
    with them.
    If it can just be locked to "Lee Bryant" and work
    with any broker
    that would be good.

    Regards
    Lee
    Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:01:05 -0400
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: Payment for DragonPips EA made

    Dear,

    This Dragonpips EA. Thank you for buying.
    If you have question, don't hasitate to contact us.

    Regards,


    Support

    Quoting Lee Bryant <[email protected]>:

    Hi,

    I have just made payment of $249 by PayPal for
    DragonPips.

    The details are:

    Payment method: PayPal (from [email protected])
    Payment batch (Tranasction ID): 32V17445T3206641W
    Broker's Name: InterBankFX
    Trading account name: Lee Bryant
    Trading account number: 20300

    If possible could you just lock the expert to my
    name and not
    account number so I can use it on a demo too ?

    If not also please also send me a demo version
    for account
    number: 2282139

    Thanks
    Lee Bryant

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    Default Fake statement from buyer

    fake statement from our buyer named "Lee Bryant"

    forum.fxopen.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7003&d=1237347906

    forum.fxopen.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7002&d=1237347772

    For all, maybe he will share our fake EA too to make your account loss to destroy our business so be carefull. We not responsible for that. We never push you to buy it. Only paid member will get all update and best setting of this EA

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    Hi, I am interested in your EA, but I have some questions:

    1. Does it work for EURGBP and GBPUSD only?
    2. Is it a scalping EA?
    3. How about the spread? Will it impact the profit of this EA if the spread extended?

    Thanks~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonpips View Post
    fake statement from our buyer named "Lee Bryant"

    forum.fxopen.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7003&d=1237347906

    forum.fxopen.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7002&d=1237347772

    For all, maybe he will share our fake EA too to make your account loss to destroy our business so be carefull. We not responsible for that. We never push you to buy it. Only paid member will get all update and best setting of this EA

    Regards,

    Support
    Wouldn't it be prudent to just refund Mr Bryant as an unsatisfied client?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ike Wang View Post
    Hi, I am interested in your EA, but I have some questions:

    1. Does it work for EURGBP and GBPUSD only?
    2. Is it a scalping EA?
    3. How about the spread? Will it impact the profit of this EA if the spread extended?

    Thanks~
    dragonpips work for eur/usd and gpb/usd only
    yes, it's scalping
    we can fix the spread for open position

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    Quote Originally Posted by RebateFX.com View Post
    Wouldn't it be prudent to just refund Mr Bryant as an unsatisfied client?
    as we said before to mr. Bryant, we will do the right way if he did the honest thing, he bought it for 12 hours and ask for refund with his fake statement. We still hold his refund until he make clarification about his statement on all forums

    it's not about unsatisfied, but Mr. Bryant want to get free dragonpips by made fake statement and ask for refund

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    as we said before to mr. Bryant, we will do the right way if he did the honest thing, he bought it for 12 hours and ask for refund with his fake statement. We still hold his refund until he make clarification about his statement on all forums

    it's not about unsatisfied, but Mr. Bryant want to get free dragonpips by made fake statement and ask for refund
    what the correct way, mr Bryant just want to cheat and get free ea.
    but I have other thoughts
    I see on the web to show you backtest results of 10 years.
    and I also know many people would like to see the results you foward demo ea.
    from some people that I get the same result
    your answer;

    We decided not share our live statement to protect our EA, please
    understand it,
    we want to keep this EA secure not like fapturbo nowdays that be a enemy with
    most broker, but we give you guarantee for 24-48 hours to claim if our
    result not similar with yours.
    Thank you


    I see here have said, interesting
    "we want to keep this secure not like EA fapturbo nowdays that be a enemy with a broker"
    if statement here to login or demonstration can make a demo broker refused ea?
    I have never heard that brokers do.
    "most brokers, but we give you guarantee for 24-48 hours to claim if our
    result not similar with yours
    "
    claim to what size?
    backtest your show?
    This is quite funny
    Your accusations against Mr. Bryant, I think of the going
    Last edited by giovaldo; 03-18-2009 at 11:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by giovaldo View Post
    what the correct way, mr Bryant just want to cheat and get free ea.
    but I have other thoughts
    I see on the web to show you backtest results of 10 years.
    and I also know many people would like to see the results you foward demo ea.
    from some people that I get the same result
    your answer;

    We decided not share our live statement to protect our EA, please
    understand it,
    we want to keep this EA secure not like fapturbo nowdays that be a enemy with
    most broker, but we give you guarantee for 24-48 hours to claim if our
    result not similar with yours.
    Thank you


    I see here have said, interesting
    "we want to keep this secure not like EA fapturbo nowdays that be a enemy with a broker"
    if statement here to login or demonstration can make a demo broker refused ea?
    I have never heard that brokers do.
    "most brokers, but we give you guarantee for 24-48 hours to claim if our
    result not similar with yours
    "
    claim to what size?
    backtest your show?
    This is quite funny
    Your accusations against Mr. Bryant, I think of the going
    all of us know the size, you can compare it by Profit Factor, DD, etc if you not satisfied you can ask for refund, i don't think it's funny, find for me EA vendor give guarantee like this, i guarantee you never find it!

    We sell for serious buyer only, 48 hours guarantee for backtest 90 days for demo or live result if get MC you can ask for refund, it's very simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonpips View Post
    dragonpips work for eur/usd and gpb/usd only
    yes, it's scalping
    we can fix the spread for open position
    Hi dragonpips,

    How about back test for 2008 to now, I saw a lot of EA is profitable from 1999 to 2007 or to 2008, but if you test backtest from 2008 to now only, it will be a terrible result, I think 2008 is a difficult year for almost EA. Thanks~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ike Wang View Post
    Hi dragonpips,

    How about back test for 2008 to now, I saw a lot of EA is profitable from 1999 to 2007 or to 2008, but if you test backtest from 2008 to now only, it will be a terrible result, I think 2008 is a difficult year for almost EA. Thanks~
    yes, 2008 is not good for almost EA, we have test it the result shown still profit but with small Profit Factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonpips View Post
    as we said before to mr. Bryant, we will do the right way if he did the honest thing, he bought it for 12 hours and ask for refund with his fake statement. We still hold his refund until he make clarification about his statement on all forums

    it's not about unsatisfied, but Mr. Bryant want to get free dragonpips by made fake statement and ask for refund
    I still think it would have been better just to refund him before this disagreement became public. You don't come out of such a situation well by publicly making accusations against the client.

    Just a suggestion from someone who knows a little about good PR
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    Quote Originally Posted by RebateFX.com View Post
    I still think it would have been better just to refund him before this disagreement became public. You don't come out of such a situation well by publicly making accusations against the client.

    Just a suggestion from someone who knows a little about good PR
    already have some of the problems complained refund but always do allegedly fraudulent data through notepad.
    dragonpips I think you are quite unreasonable, because the sell the property of others and change the name of the EA and is free
    I will not open if you stop selling and refund the purchase complain in this ea.
    some that we also uncover the same ea and other versions of this.
    This version first.
    please you choose dragonpips!!!

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