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    Default Three Major Reasons for Losses & The Three Disciplines of Control

    After 14 years of having the opportunity and privilege to coach different levels of traders in most markets and situations, some very interesting and common problems emerged. Coaching brings the best and the worst out of traders and being honest with who you are as a person becomes an essential part of trading. We are not perfect as people and we certainly are not perfect as traders.

    My clients run the gambit, from, what I call heavy hitters making $750k to several million per year, to newbies who have been actively in the market for 1- 10 years. The range of experience has allowed me to compare what seasoned traders do differently in their trading approach, to what the new trader maybe missing. Always the goal is to pass down information that will speed up the learning curve and increase the odds of making it, as so many dont.
    With that said, three common trading problems consistently would foster re-occurring losses. Two turned out to be innate human qualities most dont think about and if they did. Most likely wouldnt know how to fix them. Since awareness is the first part of changing anything, bringing these problems to light can prevent them from reeking havoc on a traders mindset and profitability.

    Those who have chosen this very unique career of trader face a mountain of challenges each day based on ever-changing market conditions. Added to the market challenges are emotions, which can be 90% of the game. You can have a great method, strategy and be taught by the best, but if fear, apprehension or hesitation come up the trader wont take the trade..this is an emotional block. All successful and experienced traders learn quickly to become the masters of their emotions. To accept and manage their weaknesses and leverage their strengths.

    At first most traders start by researching and determining a method to trade. They do little to emotionally prepare for whats to come. Yet they quickly find out that their emotions come into play early on, especially if they experience immediate losses. Losing money coupled with ones own emotional baggage can impact the minds thought process and outcome.
    My work focuses on the power of the mind and in particular the power of thought. These three problems and solutions do too. Nothing happens without the some form of thought, be it sub-conscience or conscience. After all, isnt this what were left with when sitting in front of our monitors trading? What comes into our minds, as we trade can be avalanches of different thoughts. These thoughts then have the ability to assist us and add to our success or become our worst nightmares resulting in multiple losses.

    Traders over time, come to the realization that trading will force them to face ALL their old and current emotional baggage and blocks. And that NOT being able to manage or dump the baggage, can hit the bottom line quickly.
    When a traders plan doesnt work they tend to blame it on the method, when in reality it usually comes down to an emotion causing them to react inappropriately. We can pick up automatic emotional blocks that prevent us from implementing a method effectively. Many try to get over these emotions on their own, but few master the changes needed.

    But lets get specific and to the heart of these three trading problems. The first reason traders lose may seem obvious but in reality it stems from long term social conditioning. Its their inability to ACCEPT LOSS. Losing generates powerful emotions, such as fear, uncertainty, apprehension, and self-doubt especially with men. And while women today can also be as affected, the data is supported mostly by men as they represent a larger portion of the client base.

    Men are socially conditioned to succeed from the time they enter the world. From little boys being read, The Little Train That Could to the environments that surround them as they grow up. They are guided to be become achievers. Influenced by family, friends, education, and career environments they are encouraged to seek professions of Doctors, Lawyers, and Bankers. Images and social metaphors reinforce them. Striving to be right, number one, the breadwinner, and the best, always seeking perfectionism. They are socially conditioned to be the family providers. Add to this various cultural pressures and demands and men have a built-in fundamental obligation to succeed.

    These pressures translate directly to the trading mindset in many forms. One sign is when a trader makes speedy exits. This usually stems from some sort of fear, which came from many small losses or one big one. Fear causes the mind to question and react while the trade is still safe. Another is increasing size while in a bad position. This thinking is, the Ill get it back faster if I do this. The reality is the trader will typically go down faster. Finally, there is over-trading, or getting hooked, taking one trade, after another after another, usually all losers. This can expose an addictive behavior and the have to play the game syndrome. All can be indications of an emotional block and reaction to previous losses.

    So why is accepting a loss a bad thing? Losing is a SHOCK to the system after all the conditioning to succeed. Trading as a career is usually the first time, the trader is faced with the inescapable reality that everyday and every trade, presents the possibility of losing. Each trade is a balancing act between failure and success and the possibility of being wrong. When a loss occurs, there is a powerful emotional attack on the ego, self-esteem, confidence, and security. This is where the risk of an emotional block occurs. These blocks have a tendency to resurface when least expected. The top two emotions expressed by 95% of traders are fear and frustration.

    The solution is to take a reality check. LOSING is part of the game. Its possibility never goes away, it never takes a long vacation and if its meaning is not re-defined it never feels good. Bottom line, traders lose. The key is, how much and how often, separates the great traders from those who will always struggle.
    How a trader chooses to overcome and accept this can prove to be critical to their success. Ignoring it can create a disability so severe it can paralyze the mind's ability to think clearly.

    So, whats the solution and what can a trader do? First is, to NOT fall prey to any emotion and to let go of ego. Knowledge and awareness lead to change. One can learn to accept losing by redefining the meaning of loss. If you define or equate it to failure then it will take its toll on the bottom line but redefining it is a way to move forward, a way to improve trades and make losing OK. Look at losing as a good thing that will improve a trade. Find something new. Make the mistake a blip on the radar and let it come and go with ease, no big deal.

    Journal each trade. Its the fastest way to uncover whats wrong and make the change to success. Many traders hate taking the time, but if staying in the game is the goal than this will work for the long term. Create a new mindset, dont rush, there is always another great trade around the corner, even if you missed one. Take a break if you are having a challenge to get back on track, and give your mind a rest. Change your focus.

    Each loss allows a trader to figure out what has to be changed so the next time this situation arises they now have the new strategy a new technique. Going into avoidance or denial fosters additional losses and bad emotions. This approach is a sure way of trading yourself out of the business. Trading is the ultimate honesty pill. The honestly of who you are with weaknesses and strengths.

    Bottom line: Make losing OK. Find your solutions with questions that will move the trade in a forward direction. Example: How could I make that trade better? What could I do or see to stay with that trade longer?

    The second trading challenge is the innate human characteristic of patterns. Patterns are all around us in thousands of forms. In nature as a snowflake, or leaf, right down to the formations within cellular structure.

    Our innate propensity for patterns is with us each and every day. We have a builtin need for patterns. WHY? They make us feel secure, stable, certain and solid. We are automatically drawn to patterns whether we know it or not. Think of going to your favorite restaurant, taking the menu, asking for the specials and 95% of the time youll order the same thing you did the time before pattern. Or when you choose what to wear from your closet and you pick your favorite pair of pants, favorite shirt.patterns.

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    Heres the problem, while you body is prone to assimilate patterns to feel comfortable, your mind doesnt have the ability to distinguish and know to only keep the good ones and not hold onto the bad ones. It just thinks WOOPIE that feels like a pattern lets hold on to that one, good or bad.

    Patterns are how the police find the bad guys, because criminals tend to do the same things over and over. Its innate, part of who we are, but we are not normally taught how to control this and when we go to trade were not aware of how it can affect our trades. The mind will hold onto ANY pattern given the chance.

    Here is an example of a trader with a locked in pattern. He calls and says: I took 7 trades and cant do anything right. I say, So you lost at all 7 trades? he replies, No I lost at 5 and won at 2. I ask him what happened with the 5 and can he describe them? He is very specific in what he did wrong and as a matter of fact after he makes about 5 or 6 points he says oh yeah and they are all the same. I then get to say my favorite line: Thats great you know exactly what you did wrong and your descriptions are as very accurate, you just saved money on your coaching today, dont do that again. The reply is always the same, But I cant stop! I know now this trader has locked in a pattern. They intellectually know they should stop but they cant and they repeat the same problem over and over and repeat the loss over and over. They never made a change and the body just loves holding on to this. Finally, I then ask what happened to the 2 trades you won? They say: I cant remember!

    So the two trades I want them to lock into a pattern they have ignored and the 5 I want them to forget and change they have locked in.

    Whats the solution to breaking a pattern? Its critical to notice when the pattern is happening and to never let it take hold. Attacking a loss immediately helps this. Should a trader not notice the first loss, and the second occurs, than they should really be aware and analyze it. If the second one is not examined and slips by, and the third one occurs, now the risk of the pattern being locked in is very high. I call it the three strikes your out rule. If you have 3 trades exactly alike and they are losers you have to make it a MUST to examine them and change the approach. If you dont the probability of repeating it and losing again is VERY, VERY high. A trader must do whatever it takes to stop.

    Getting up and moving is the fastest way to stop a pattern. Take a walk move around. Next, is to be sure there is no emotion, and to let go of the loss and be inquisitive, to modify the approach and have a new solution for the next trade. If a trader is out of control at this point they maybe hooked and have gone into what I call the I dont care zone. There is this strange thing that happens when a trader losses over and over, they get mesmerized and just let the trade and money slip away watching it and not doing anything till the pain level is so great they finally make a decision and exit. We know what happens next..the trade turns and goes back in the right direction. Its important to avoid bad repeat patterns at all cost. Do whatever it takes to break them.

    Finally the biggest most dangerous of the three problems is EMOTION. ANY emotion at all while trading, I call Traders Fog. When a trader experiences emotion at anytime during the trade they can not think clearly, because the emotion is stronger. So they react in the wrong way. Emotions will cloud judgement and prevent a trader from being creative because the mind can not allow normal thought to occur. Emotions over-ride logical thought.

    Emotions dont allow for adjustments, distinctions or ways to modify the trade and blocks can get implanted if emotions get out of control. Emotions are a traders worst enemy. Here is how you know you have an emotional block. If you want to trade a certain way and react a certain way but cant and are pulled to react differently even though you intellectually KNOW you want to do, you have a block.

    Keeping ones mind on track focused and directed is the ultimate mind-set for successful traders. While this sounds like an easy thing to do it can be the biggest challenge a trader will have to overcome.

    I found that men love to express their challenges to one another. I guess its part of the male bonding thing, to feel like they are part of the pack, one of the boys. When working in the trading room on Wall St. I was amazed when I would hear things like trading is like a battle today. Or The markets killing me Or I feel like I am hitting my head against the wall everytime I take a trade. These kind of thoughts are very detrimental to trading as it will pollute a traders overall attitude and how they feel. To be mentally at the top of the game its important to remove and changed this type of thinking.

    The mind can not tell the difference between whats real and not real; it only picks up what we tell it. So if we tell it its in a battle it thinks its in a battle and it puts us into a flight and fight mode. This is not the mode or mindset conducive to trading.

    Our emotional strengths and peak mind-set come from how we think and what we think about. If you put bad things into the thought process you get bad things out, put good things in and you get good things out.

    Finally the best way to remove emotions in the moment is to ask the mind a good question. Questions force the mind to release the emotion, as it shifts to finding the answer to the question. Its the number one way to shift while sitting there focused on a trade, whether an entry or exit.

    Its important to also remember, should you not be able to control what your doing, most likely there is a strong block taking over. In that case you will need additional help to release it, as they typically get locked into our bodies.

    I use the example of a candle. If you never experienced a candle and I said this is going to be a great experience try itand you doyou put your hand over the candle and you get burned and say ouch. I say: That was strange that never happened before its supposed to be a good feeling do it again.you do and say ouch. Each time a neuro-connection is formed in the mind, and with each similar experience it gets stronger. When it gets very strong and your mind believes you are about to be hurt it will go into an autopilot mode I call protection or defensive mode. So back to the candle ..I ask you one more time put your hand over the candle it will be fine what do you think you will say? NO WAY! Your mind and body is in protection mode, and it will cause fear, apprehension or hesitation to stop you and protect you from harm.

    This innate amazing quality we have for self-preservation is great for candles and it stinks for trading. The candle and mind work the same related to trading losses and what we feel about money. A trading loss equals and ouch many small losses and it strengthens in our mind. A really big loss and a trader can become frozen and paralyzed.

    If a trader is at this stage they most likely need some coaching to get over it. If asking questions doesnt work the block is usually too strong. There are techniques that can remove blocks quickly and are worth learning if trading is serious for you.

    So in closing, make losing your best friend, dont let bad patterns take hold, and trade emotionless.

    And from The Traders Coach be happy, healthy, have fun and most of all be responsible. You and only you are responsible for your trading.

    by Robin Dayne

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    I must say that the major reason for loss in this field is lack of knowledge , greediness or over trading and i must say that most of the newbies always loose their total capital because they don't have the proper knowledge of this field.

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    I feel that more than the lack of knowledge, most of the traders tend to fail because of lack of discipline

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashvini View Post
    I feel that more than the lack of knowledge, most of the traders tend to fail because of lack of discipline
    i agree with you but i must say that both things plays an important role in this field you can't do the trading without knowledge and without discipline.

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    it is also true that greed and often violate the rule specified in the strategy used was going to cause the trader is losing money because it should keep the account with the discipline of the rule of the strategy can generate profits consistently.

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    @puji as we all know that doing trading without any boundaries always makes a trader to loose his capital so its always recommended to do the trading within the border lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seahawks90 View Post
    i agree with you but i must say that both things plays an important role in this field you can't do the trading without knowledge and without discipline.
    i think the main problem of the indian and as well other asian traders are that they comes into the Forex trading with less preparation and then the losses they face , lack of discipline also happens because we have not good education about the trading

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    @waheed i must say that may be it is one of the cause but i must say that as compared to Asians other people from other parts of globe are loosing more than us , so always try to remain positive and always think positive.

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